Quarterly SOHLstice
September 2021
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Regent's Message: Summer 2021
President's Message
SOHL Programs: Quarterly Update
Welcome Our Newest Members of SOHL
SOHL Member Spotlight: Mike De Castro, MHA
Partnering for Success: Preparing for the ACHE Board of Governors Exam
Q3 2021 National News
Tackling Important Conversations Virtually
The Impact of Remote Work on Reading Body Language
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Chapter Officers

Executive Board

Regent (California - Southern)
Harry C. Sax, MD, FACHE, FACS
Cedars Sinai Medical Center


Nora Bota
County of San Diego


Immediate Past Co-Presidents
Dasha Dahdouh
Rady Children's Hospital - San Diego

Darrell Atkin

Johan Otter
Scripps Health


President Elect
Jessica Taylor
Jessica Taylor Consulting

Sarah Norwood
Tech Coast Angels San Diego

James Revels
UC San Diego Health


Jennifer Reyes
Neighborhood Healthcare

Board of Directors

Debbie Jacobs

Aubrianna Schumacher
UC San Diego Health Physician Group

Jack Hallmark

Lydia Isabel Napa
UC San Diego Health

Marketing and Communications
Ana Victoria Ramirez
Sharp Coronado Hospital

Sean Olmo
Scripps Health

Barbara Gerber
Devon Hill Associates, LLC

Gary Fybel
FMG Leading


Subcommittee Members

Diversity Council
Kelly Price Noble
University of Phoenix

Pranav Dixit

Allied Healthcare Professional Council

County: Nora Bota, County of San Diego

Military: LT Jac Thomas

VA: Sarah Guerard, VA San Diego Healthcare System

Volunteer Coordinator
Kristine Ortwine
Integrated Health Partners

Annual Conference
Johan Otter
Scripps Health


Mike De Castro
ECG Management Consultants

Social Media
Moyosore Buari


Marketing Volunteer
Susan Stone
Sharp HealthCare

Maureen Malone


Executive Program
Celerina Cornett
UC San Diego Extension

Jack Hallmark

Advancement Study Group
Carol Cannizzo

Nicholas Hance


Early Careerists
Jennifer Reyes
Neighborhood Healthcare

Graduate Program Council, San Diego State University
Brandy Lipton

Thuy Do

Britney Seidemann


Graduate Program Council, National University
Negin Iranfar

Joy De Dios


Graduate Program Council, UC San Diego
Robert Kaplan

Justin Sigmund

Michael Chan

Graduate Program Council, University of Phoenix
Kelly Price Noble
University of Phoenix

College Bowl
Negin Iranfar
National University

Senior Advisors Council
Mary Parra
Neighborhood Healthcare

Mark Campbell
TRICARE Regional Office – West

Jared Vogt
Rady Children's Hospital

Trish Daly
Daly Consulting Solutions

Regent's Message: Summer 2021

Dissenting Voices

Imagine that you were in a hard-fought battle for an elected office. You and your opponents were on opposite ends of the spectrum, and there was little middle ground. Debates were vociferous, divisive, and attacks became personal. One of your opponents subsequently wins, yet invites you to join their cabinet. What would you do, and do you think you would succeed?

William H Seward and Salmon P Chase faced such a dilemma. The year was 1860, and the victor, Abraham Lincoln.

Doris Kearns Goodwin, in her book Team of Rivals, examines how Lincoln embraced multiple points of view and purposely invited dissent into his inner circle. His pragmatism, as well as an ability to be empathetic to others' motives and beliefs, allowed him to build a team with the complementary skill sets needed to navigate the Civil War. There are lessons for us today.

ACHE is committed to diversity, equity, and inclusion. While we can measure demographics and trends, our success will come from truly listening to differing opinions, perspectives, and ideas. This can become uncomfortable. Our own core beliefs may be challenged, and emotions riled. We cannot merely dismiss the differences as unreasonable, or the proponent as poor “team players.” For some of us, honing this skill is not easy. But it can be done.

In high school, I wasn’t much of an athlete, so I joined the debate team. A topic was assigned, and you spent hours developing the argument for or against the proposal. Similar to a trial, you would present your side and try to show how the alternative was not correct. One day as we were about to begin, the coach made us switch – pro became con and visa versa. We were forced to immediately think about the common themes and how to reframe them. It was a valuable lesson. Even today, when asked to review malpractice litigation, I do the review as if I was the opposing counsel. In committee meetings that I chair, we’ll go around the room and ask everyone’s perspectives, especially those we know may not be in agreement with a proposal.

Although our current political and social environment seems as fractured as ever, I am confident that we will begin to talk to, rather than at, each other. It starts locally, in your own institutions. Find someone you don’t agree with and invite them for coffee. You may be surprised by how much you have in common.

“He who cannot put his thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of dispute.”

― Friedrich Nietzsche, Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits

Be safe,


Harry C. Sax, MD, FACHE
Regent for California – Southern

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